Munchausen's, and Munchausen's By Proxy! That router article is amazing work Nick! LEONARD was unable to get details from her. She could barely handle the 2 monsters she had, another on the way, and Chris did a lot around the house to help out with the girls, meanwhile she had them in school that cost them 2K per month. Heyy Guyzz Just wanted to remind my fave DL'ers..hey Kiki, hey girl, um, hi Missy, hey girl..um, my fave DL'ers to keep on thrivin' cuz you know, um, hey Karen, heyy Shawna..i suffer from OCD, AIDS, Cancer, ADHD, NPD, Lupus and i will tell you that since I started workin for this company, i was in really bad health..hey Buffy hey girl..Wut Chris? Thanks for mentioning that, whoever you are. Like an entire store's worth. For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. No, R108. SHANANN would stay gone, but he was never concerned that something happened to her. I agree CBH. Walk away, wimp. Shanann was such a grifter. How wrong we all were. We were so blessed to have such a joyful and wonderful daughter whose beauty was that of a doll. I asked LEONARD about his relationship with SHANANN. This is a good thread! WTF?!? lts only one way emotions and feelings. Man, I wish he had consulted a lawyer. HE is not getting this media-inspired bullshit. And even during the confession, he still doesnt seem to feel bad for the two little girls. Her friend tried to soothe her, to no avail. She then went to work in Charlotte, NC for a middle eastern guy that owned a tire and wheel business called Dirty South. Mortgages became harder to get after the 08 recession. Phil Hartmans wife was another first name changer. It's very hard to lie your way through a mortgage loan process. In a new documentary from Netflix, newly revealed letters and texts show that Shanann had no idea that her marriage would soon turn deadly. That is a comment that should never have been said; parenthood is exhausting and social media never forgives human missteps. , updated She was a grifter with her buddy Hashem. Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. Why does everyone on this thread seem so willing to badmouth a victim none of you have met? Worse than anything that I or any DL detective squad member dreamed upand we had a lot of theories about what went down since this happened. I think he did the world a favor by offing her. I need you to meet me halfway. He used the same blanket to kill 4-year-old Bella . Watts was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. I have thought she cheated all along as well. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - Speaking about their relationshiphttps://youtu.be/2MgUoKut3UsLEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive. Always always have your own liquid accounts if you are married! Why would you bury your dead wife only a foot and a half underground? Shanann Watts, 34, posted the photo of the shrouded doll on August 9, days before police say she and her daughtersCeleste, three, and Bella, four, were killed in their Frederick, Colorado home, on the northern outskirts of Denver. The fact that he didn't anticipate her friends blowing up her phone shows how dumb he is. On a waitress/retail managers salary. r50 frankly even the kids seemed hard to root for. What's fascinating about her, OP? Yes indeed, we too use "cookies." Why? Christopher Watts, the husband of pregnant Shanann Watts and the father of Bella and 3-year-old Celeste, pleaded guilty last week to killing all three in August. Despite having the same triggers, we never had attacks at the same time. And it was mostly consumer debt, no? What bank is giving a 20-something single woman making, what, $40k/year TOPS? She tore through life, grabbing grabbing grabbing, and demanding. He admitted to that. Shanann Watts, 34, and her two children Bella, 3, and. Hello. The FBI agents are being complimented as ingenius interrogators, but their smarminess is also cringeworthy. Foolish and impulsive on her part, but not at all impossible at the time. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. These two mothers were hideous; they eventually killed their kidsand themselves. Watts worked as an operator with the oil drilling company Anadarko. Chris Watts, then 33, had grown distant from his family and was seeing a new woman. Only they know, but I bet that is the case. Replying to myself - FattieWattie should be pronounced Fatty Watty as in Wat that rhymes with Fat..Ive fucked up on the first post already :/. Why are some posters feel the need to say that the toddlers are "ugly". On August 10, the day after posting the doll picture, Shanann traveled to Scottsdale, Arizona for a work event. Women like that can get him to do anything. The 33-year-old pleaded guilty to killing his wife Shanann Watts and their children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, in exchange for avoiding the death penalty as part of a plea deal. He is a greedy as fuck sociopath. According to Good Housekeeping, Watts played the role of a concerned husband when Shanann's friend reported her missing after being unable to get in contact with her. And thats saying a lot. (Colorado Bureau of Investigation) The girls in the tanks, neatly hidden from view. That poster has a strange definition for cuter.. He later admitted to killing their daughters, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste, by smothering them with a blanket over their heads. No doubt he snapped. Another person she was using? SHANANN would stay gone, but he was never concerned that something happened to her.LEONARD knew that SHANANN first worked with cell phones when he met her. Im sure NK wasnt blaming everything on some imaginary disease (yes, I know lupus is REAL, but Shanann didnt have it). Leonard Thomas King Christopher Lee Watts on 3 Nov 2012 in Mecklenburg, North Carolina, United StatesResidence, (01 Oct 2004-01 Jun 2005) Dunn, North Carolina, United States (01 Aug 2005-15 Nov 2007) Dunn, North Carolina, United States (15 Nov 2007) Clifton, New Jersey, United States (01 Mar 2008) Fayetteville, North Carolina, United StatesDeath, 2825 Saratoga Trail, Erie, Boulder, Colorado, United StatesBurial, Aberdeen, Moore, North Carolina, United States of America. In lieu of flowers memorial donations can be made in memory honoring Shanann to the Lupus Foundation of America at 2121 K Street NW, Suite 200 Washington, DC 20037-1830.or to the Frederick Colorado Police Dept.- Missing Persons Division at PO Box 435 Frederick, CO 80530 or to the St.Judes Childrens Hospital at 501 St. Jude Place, Memphis, TN 38105, Online condolences can be made to www.bolesfuneralhome.com. And Jim Id love to know more. I bet those bitches have some stories to tell. It does seem like a few people are looking to justify her murder so that they don't feel guilty about their attraction to Chris, seriously--but I'm assuming it's mostly tongue in cheek, since even if you can feel sympathy for someone snapping and killing a bitchy frau, there's the two innocent children and all r29 I believe Chris only made 60k/year and Shan'ann MAYBE made anither 30k with the Thrive! Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com LEONARD knew nothing of SHANANNs current husband, other than what he saw on the news. She wanted people to ask her, "How should I pronounce your name?" No joke. Mrs. Watts is the smallest one. That said, my pity and heartbreak goes out to those kids and Nico. LOL. Is it from medical? I think if Shan'ann had lived she would have ended up being another Dee Dee Blanchard. That was a detailed and well written article, R227; better than most others I have read about his new confession. r255/r257 is a moron. Shananns worries about her marriage had eaten up her confidence in Chris and their bond together. At least the Watts kids had a good life while they had one. [quote]However, anyone who devotes MONTHS to harping on how annoying a dead woman was when she was alive, has all the screws loose. Safe to say they were actually depending on Chris's 60k, which didn't cover their oversized suburban lifestyle. Even after she moved to CO and was a married mother. I asked about SHANANNs skills in conflict resolution. R169: I dont think either one were straight when it comes to spending. L Lynda Pringle 2 followers More information Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] Fairy Garden Diy Ex Husbands True Crime Leonard Watts Interview Anne Family Quick More information . He learned of this case from social media and news. It is how you build one. And there was that video of them where she encouraged them to smack Daddy! And just her overall demeanor that he was a dumb wallet for them to drain. The documentary, entitled American Murder: The Family Next Door, began streaming on September 30. On Feb. 18, over a span of five hours, Watts shared with investigators more disturbing details in how he killed his wife, Shanann, and their two daughters in August 2018. It was probably some scam. SHANANN was in high school when LEONARD first met her. His brother's widow (Arie) spoke to an NBC affiliate station in NC that she was "sick over it" and that it was "heartbreaking." Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. Shanann was running another scam, Im positive. I still find this case fascinating. Dont interrupt me. lol, Chris Watts is a victim of his own choices, that's about it. I would love to hear about shanann's personality from her call center colleagues. Another one is when people go around telling you: Im OCD Im a straight shooter Im a scatterbrain Im not here for drama. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. I think if you go back and look at the Thrive video output it might correlate with when Chris began cheating posting a profile on Tinder and hooking up with Amanda McMahon either Feb. or March 2018. Her folks referred to her as Shannan at Chris's sentencing and she was named in thar lawsuit against the rim shop as Shannan King (her first husband's surname). Yes, R231, good point! The daughters stayed home with Watts in Colorado while Shanann was on the trip, she told police. I think men (more than women) think Chris Watts is attractive. And once she was done she cut him out of her life. He was an empty canvas, grey rock, cipher. Weve never had a problem in our relationship like this. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? It looks like they plopped a development in the middle of nowhere. I started a post on them but apparently they are not as fun to satirize as Shannan. And I still want to know more about the drugs in bins in their basement. A Colorado man has allegedly confessed to killing his pregnant wife and two young children after giving an earlier interview telling a completely different story. Not that he should have killed them, but she was a cunt to him and then when she realized he wasnt going to take it anymore, she backpedaled furiously. R59: Why is there a photo of a black woman and child on the shelf? Didnt Shanann cheat on Leonard with the middle eastern guy at Dirty South he mentions? She would terrify me. How much did Shanann have wrapped up in inventory? LEONARD had heard that SHANANN left her cell phone at home. John Forbes officiating. Words have devastating consequences. Yes . I assure you i am not a moron. This community exists to discuss the murders of the Watts family and the subsequent arrest of Chris Watts. But OH MY GOD! 80,000 was between both of their salaries. If so she more recently passed away as well at only 33 and leaving their 6 year old with neither mom or dad just tragic https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. In reality they were all already dead. R118 Sorry. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. Grieving husband and father. I remember there was some anti-Lularore/MLM site that had stories of men divorcing their wives due to MLM debt. Thank you all for this thread. our privacy/terms or if you just want to see the damn Just saying, R244 Like that YouTube family whose kid died of a random heart or brain condition and they livestreamed his funeral "for the fans". R181: The friend is Chris Watts ex-girlfriend. I have to wonder if she didnt try to historically get some cash contributions from her parents by asserting she had medical debt. Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant, and appeared to be happily married, according to Atkinson. Chris Watts ultimately confessed to strangling 34-year-old Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant with a boy, and then smothering 3-year-old Celeste. Unless the new lover is a threat to the kids or is causing financial ruin. Nag, nag, nag. But Colorado courts wouldve absolutely not allowed her to move out of state and take the girls, unless there was a good reason (my parents will provide day care for the kids - but they couldnt, since they both had to work) or Chris agreed. Its very clinical and he doesnt sound like he has real empathy for what they went through. I feel kind of the same way. So is Sandra referring to new debt that Shanann told her about? Hello. She did everything to come across as the perfect, crunchy-earthy, cool progressive lesbian mom. Hello and thank you for being a DL contributor. I have no use for him, but if the tables were turned, and the husband was filming, itd be seen as abusive. - they owed. I have friends whose kids have asthma, and they do not have that sort of look. Financially she had left him no way out. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. It reminds me of the wasteland between Gatsbys mansion and the City. 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